3717: Forming New Habits: Train to be an Amateur, Not an Expert by Nir Eyal and Charles Wang on Personal Growth

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🗓️ 27 August 2025

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Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3717: Nir Eyal and Charles Wang explore the surprising value of embracing the mindset of an amateur rather than striving for rigid expertise. By focusing on curiosity, experimentation, and playfulness, we stay adaptable, avoid burnout, and discover deeper joy in learning. This approach invites growth by valuing exploration over perfection. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.nirandfar.com/train-to-be-amateur-not-expert/ Quotes to ponder: "An amateur is someone who does something because they love it." "Experts often feel the need to defend their knowledge and authority, while amateurs are open to questioning and rethinking what they know." "When we give ourselves permission to be amateurs, we free ourselves to learn without fear of failure." Episode references: Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise: https://www.amazon.com/Peak-Secrets-New-Science-Expertise/dp/0544947223 Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Mind-Beginners-Informal-Meditation/dp/1590308492 So Good They Can’t Ignore You: https://www.amazon.com/Good-They-Cant-Ignore-You/dp/1455509124 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:57.3	This is optimal living daily, forming new habits, trained to be an amateur, not an expert,
1:03.3	by Neer Ayal and Charles Wang with nearanfar.com.
1:07.0	And I'm Justin Mollick.
1:08.5	We're going to jump right into today's post as we optimize our life.
1:16.2	Forming New Habits,
1:17.9	trained to be an amateur, not an expert, by Neer A.all and Charles Wang with nearanfar.com.
1:25.1	Today's top selling books are about how to acquire world-class skill.
1:29.9	Daniel Coils the Talent Code looks at how deliberate practice is required to achieve greatness.
1:35.8	Joshua 4 shows us how we must smash past performance plateaus to be any good.
1:41.1	Worse, Tim Ferriss's 4-Hour series is doing for hipsters what crash diets do for teenage
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