The Joe Rogan experience.

Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night all day.

He made it. I did. Rick Doblin who is the head of maps or if you have never heard will the it's called an acronym where it's maps or is it yeah it is because

it's what you say it right when you don't say it's an abbreviation is that what it is

or it's we try to figure that out once but it stands for the multi distance for it is what Google is for but somehow another I'm not quite I don't totally have it together

Multidisciplinary Association for Psychodelic Studies.

You founded this.

Yeah, and I was surprised to discover it has the most syllables of any organization in the

nonprofit world for drug reform.

Really?

Well, it's a very interesting title, multi-disciplinary

association for psychedelic studies. That's what I love about it. It's like you're

coming at it from a whole bunch of different angles. So it's just doctors, it's not just chemists,

it's a whole bunch of human beings.

Yeah, and I had learned from a previous nonprofit

that when you want to create a nonprofit, it's good to try to make it as

broad as possible the purpose as you see different strategic ways to do things.

So I made it multidisciplinary which means we could look at psychedelics from virtually any perspective

Association to mean that it's publicly supported a nonprofit and I had images of you know tens of thousands of people

banding together to support research in different areas.

Psychadelic was a big choice actually whether we should use the word whether we should use a different word

whether we should use a euphemism and so I felt like I wanted in this kind of second coming of psychedelics into the culture 40 years after the crackdown, that I wanted there to be a certain transparency.

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