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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

370: Steve Herz - Don't Take Yes For An Answer

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk

Careers, Management, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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#370: Steve Herz: Don't Take Yes For An Answer

Notes:

  • Sustaining excellence =
    • Curiosity - Genuine interest
    • A desire to learn and grow
  • Finding uncommon commonalities:
    • His parents went to Ohio University (which is where I graduated)
    • Do your homework prior to meeting someone (as Steve did on me)
  • Be actionable and intentional
    • Meet someone on their turf. ACKNOWLEDGE them.
  • Turner Smith:
    • "Don't Take Yes For An Answer" -- Beware of the counter-fit yes. They are not helpful.
    • "Don't live in an echo chamber of Yes."
  • Seek feedback - Turner Smith not only didn't give Steve an offer... He gave him specific feedback as to why. Changed his life.
    • Tough love with kindness
    • Read the book: Seabiscuit. Knowing when to use carrots vs. sticks.
  • Taking his shot with Alfred Geller - "I met him in a elevator and only had a few seconds. I asked to work with him... He said, 'meet me in my office at 8:00am tomorrow.'"
    • "I downloaded his brain."
  • "You need to perfect your A. W. E."
    • Authority
    • Warmth
    • Energy
  • John Kasich didn't use his voice properly. "Change your voice, change your life."
  • Mid-level manager advice:
    • "Act like you've been there before (like Barry Sanders)." Internalize it.
    • "When you're walking your dog, who is walking who?"
  • Providing feedback to his clients:
    • "Joe Tessitore couldn't figure out how to modulate his voice."
  • Don't get into the "vortex of mediocrity:"
    • The most painful thing in the world is unfulfilled potential.
    • Find the people who are able to give you critical feedback and listen.
  • When he started his company, he called it IF after Rudyard Kipling’s poem by the same name which says, “If you can dream-- and not make dreams your master… yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it.”
  • We are ALL in sales: Steven Shapiro, member of the board of overseers of University of Pennsylvania Law School, “We have a saying at the firm: You can buy a pound of brains at the butcher. I walk through the halls of the university, and there are many brilliant future lawyers. But they can’t look you in the eye in the hallway. In 15 years, this person may be writing law on the tax code, but they’re probably not going to have a lot of clients.” You know where lawyers, or salespeople, or consultants go when they don’t bring in business? Neither do I. Because you rarely hear about them ever again."

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You got to be smart enough to understand that you're living in an echo chamber of yes,

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that if you don't seek out a no or a hey can I do better, then you're not going to get better.

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I mean I know you do a lot of public speaking and it's

0:13.4

great to hear and I saw it on your website. This guy was the best speaker we've

0:16.8

had in the last 25 years and maybe you were. Or maybe you weren't. I don't know.

0:21.0

But you should still seek out and ask that organization,

0:24.7

give me one thing you think it could have done better.

0:26.9

One thing.

0:27.6

And even if you were great already,

0:29.2

it doesn't hurt to become even greater.

0:31.7

And so I think a lot of people have lost that mechanism in their life

0:35.8

to even recognize how to avoid that echo chamber of yes.

0:41.6

Over the past nine months I've been developing a new online learning tool called

0:46.0

the Learning Leader Academy. It's been carefully designed to help you become a more

0:52.2

effective leader. The content is a combination of what I've learned

0:56.4

from the past five years worth of conversations with more than 350 of the world's most effective leaders, as well as lessons learned from my own experience

1:07.0

leading teams.

1:08.8

With that said, the content will not be the best part.

1:12.6

We are building an online community of learning leaders

1:15.8

who will have access to the following.

1:19.0

The initial 30 lessons I sat side by side with my dad my greatest mentor in my life and we spoke

1:27.3

through 30 different leadership topics in addition to seeing all of those

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