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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

370: Rikki Schlott—The Smartest Dropout I Know

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

History, Society & Culture

4.940.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The New York Post columnist and author discusses the disruptive and damaging nature of social media, our shortening attention spans, the lack of free speech on college campuses, why the First Amendment is the most important right, why she left NYU during COVID despite her 4.0 GPA, and how she came to write The Cancelling of the American Mind with Greg Lukianoff.

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0:00.0

Well, hello, friends, and welcome to the way I heard it. This episode is called the smartest dropout I know is Ricky Schlott. Because, well, frankly, Chuck, because I think she is.

0:15.3

Not only is she a dropout. She's an NYU dropout. She plans to be a two-time dropout. She's taking courses at Columbia

0:23.2

College right now, or Columbia University, I should say. And she plans to drop out there, too. She is

0:29.6

who I want to be when I grow up, and she's only 23. So what does that say? Yeah, I mean, this is kind of the,

0:37.3

this is the 23-year-old you wish you had. Right, I mean, this is kind of the, this is the 23 year old you wish you had.

0:40.3

Right. I mean, you know, this girl is impressive. Yeah, her story is so good and she's currently

0:46.7

really riding a fun wave. She's written a book with our friend Greg Lukianoff, who runs an

0:53.4

organization called Fire, which stands for

0:56.6

the foundation of, what's Stanford, Chuck? The foundation of individual rights and expression.

1:03.3

Yeah. It's my own bias, notwithstanding. It's a better version of the ACLU focused, you know,

1:09.8

really laser focused on First Amendment rights.

1:13.8

Greg and Jonathan Haidt wrote a book a couple years ago called The Coddling in the American Mind,

1:17.8

and we talked about that on the podcast because I think it's awesome.

1:20.7

Greg has written another one this time with the aforementioned Ricky Schlaught,

1:25.9

who got on his radar as just a super smart college kid

1:31.7

who got very frustrated, not just with the cancel culture that was raging at NYU, but with the

1:40.5

cost.

1:41.6

These guys actually had the nerve to increase their tuition during the lockdowns, during Zoom college.

1:49.6

The Zoom classes are going to cost you more than the in-person classes.

1:53.7

What I think is really interesting, Mike, is that she says in this interview that she actually read the coddling of the American mind. Yeah. She read that book

2:03.5

when she was, I think, starting college or just out of high school. And yeah, and then she went to

2:09.2

interview when she started working for The New York Post, interviewed Greg Lukianov, and that's how

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