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The Talk Show With John Gruber

370: ‘Fine Hypertext Products’, With Jason Kottke

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2023

⏱️ 193 minutes

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Summary

Jason Kottke returns to the show to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Kottke.org.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Jason, how you doing?

0:01.7

I'm doing all right, John.

0:02.6

Thanks for having me on the show.

0:03.8

How's the weather up there?

0:04.8

Well, it's cold because it's winter.

0:07.0

It's getting lighter though, which is great.

0:10.0

Late December, January here in Vermont is kind of bleak,

0:13.8

to be honest.

0:14.8

So I'm glad the light is getting more towards spring.

0:17.5

I hate winters.

0:18.6

I do.

0:19.5

And my wife and I, we've been talking about,

0:21.6

why the hell do we live here?

0:22.9

And I live in the tropics compared to you.

0:25.8

Yeah.

0:26.6

Darkness is the worst thing up here

0:27.9

because it's like significantly darker for longer here

0:31.9

in December and January than it is in New Yorker or down in Philly.

0:37.2

And I've also found, as I've gotten old,

0:40.6

I was going to say older, but let's face it, old.

0:42.9

You would think it would go the other way

0:45.4

that the older you get, the more you just get used to it.

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