37: Securing Our Elections with Ben Ginsberg

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🗓️ 24 January 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Jen analyzes the Republican primary and looks at how the budget battle ties into recent foreign policy developments, before welcoming legal expert Ben Ginsberg. They compare J6 to Bush vs. Gore, looking at how our politics have become more extreme and why equal protection under the law is relevant to our elections. Then, they weigh whether our elections are secure, discuss how vote by mail, voter ID, and an increased number of voting days can help restore faith in our system. From there, they look at the prospects for Trump’s quest to save himself with presidential immunity and examine the impact of the 14th Amendment challenges to his candidacy.

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Jen Rubin, and this is Jen Rubin's Green Room.
0:15.6	I am sitting here on Tuesday afternoon recording the program.
0:20.1	So although we have six votes from Dixon Notch up in
0:24.9	New Hampshire, we don't yet have results from that contest. So tomorrow at this time,
0:31.1	we're either going to have sort of a primary or we're going to have no primary whatsoever.
0:36.2	Now, I started thinking, how could we have had a better outcome?
0:40.5	In other words, less Donald Trump and maybe even somebody other than Donald Trump.
0:45.2	And I think part of the problem was what the other candidates were saying and the other candidates, to be honest, wrong people, wrong message. What kind of person could
0:56.7	have beaten Donald Trump? I think they should have gotten another Donald Trump. They should have
1:01.1	gotten a younger, smarter, better, more charismatic billionaire, a real billionaire, someone who could
1:07.8	have kind of out-egoed Trump, someone who could have mocked him, made fun of him, and be entertaining.
1:14.6	That's what the Republican Party wants.
1:16.5	It's not a political party.
1:18.1	They don't care about policy.
1:20.1	They want to be entertained.
1:21.2	They want someone to be angry on their behalf.
1:24.0	So they should have gotten somebody like that.
1:26.2	Maybe a CEO of a startup company or a CEO of a basketball team, something like that.
1:33.7	You are never going to beat Donald Trump, at least in the Republican Party, with a traditional boring politician.
1:41.2	And of course, you were really never going to beat him so long as you were
1:44.9	commiserating with him about getting indicted, so long as you were saying, I'm going to vote for
1:51.0	him in the end. That's loser talk. And if you had someone who had the nerve to say, I don't
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