two minutes later, I'm starting to panic because there's nowhere to land and that's just it.

We're in a float plane. Now there are a lot of ponds and there and we were kind of following the

Kova river, but there I thought there's no way he's going to land it in the river. So I

I knew that we were going to have to take care of this issue in the plane.

And you you were no help whatsoever. I was dying.

And you kept moving away from it. Not only would you not help.

You avoided me. As if like all of a sudden you could not be with you.

They'll believe that we weren't together.

This is the Dear Bob and Sue podcast, our stories of adventures and misadventures as we travel

to all the U.S. national parks and other public lands. I'm Matt Smith.

And I'm Karen Smith. We are the authors of the Dear Bob and Sue series of books.

On today's episode we're taking you to a remote part of Alaska to a world above the Arctic

Circle. We're discussing our trip to the two least visited national parks,

gates of the Arctic and Kobuk Valley, as well as our stay analogs in the tiny town of Bettles.

Both of these parks are wilderness areas with no roads and no services. So how did we get there?

And what did we do? We'll tell you all about our adventure above the Arctic Circle coming up next.

When we did our original two-year journey to see all the national parks, the very last two

parks left on our list were Kobuk Valley and gates of the Arctic national parks.

I think we saved these for last because out of all the parks these two are the most remote.

They were even more difficult to get to than American Samoa.

Yeah, if you can believe that. And they're also the least visited out of all the national parks.

And maybe that's because they're so remote and kind of difficult to get to.

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