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The New Evangelicals Podcast

369. TNE TALKS: Being a Trans Woman in an Age of Hostility with Billie Hoard

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.6936 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with Billie Hoard, a trans woman and theologian, about the intersections of theology, politics, and culture, particularly focusing on the concept of disgust theology. They explore how disgust influences societal interactions, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism and the political landscape affecting transgender individuals. Billie's Substack | Billieiswriting.substack.com Previous Episode with Billie: Episode 133: “WTF is ‘Disgust Theology’” (March 20, 2023) Episode 163: “Responding to Bad Apologetics” (August 17, 2023) Episode 224: “Targeted By Libs of TikTok!” (February 28, 2024) Episode 253: “TNE TALKS: What I Missed at Exiles In Babylon” (May 6, 2024) Chapters 01:30 Celebrating Transgender Day of Visibility 03:06 Understanding Disgust Theology 09:11 The Role of Disgust in Political Rhetoric 17:59 Transgender Experiences in Current Politics 30:47 Celebrating Trans Day of Visibility 36:30 The Danger of Disgust in Politics 54:34 Practical Allyship for Trans Rights _______________________________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, what's up, friends? Welcome back to the show. Great, great episode today. My friend Billy Hoorde, a trans woman, writes some amazing stuff on

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disgust theology with her brother. I brought her on to celebrate Transgender Day of

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visibility, talk about what's going on in politics, how the current Trump regime, and also,

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by the way, the Biden administration has really affected how trans folks are feeling out there. We also talk a lot

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about disgust theology, what that is. This is a great conversation. I'm such a big fan of Billy.

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We've been friends both online and in person. We've hung out a bunch of times. And she's awesome.

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