369: Robert Kagan on Trump 2.0: A Global Nightmare?
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🗓️ 30 July 2024
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Rick talks with author Robert Kagan about anti-liberalism and its resurgence in the United States. They explore the historical resistance to individual rights, the rise of white Christian nationalism, and the potential global implications of a second Trump administration.
You can read Robert Kagan’s columns in The Washington Post and you can buy his book “Rebellion: How Antiiberalism Is Tearing America Apart – Again” at fine bookstores everywhere.
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| 0:00.0 | Robert is a brilliant writer who has a terrific book out called Rebellion. |
| 0:04.1 | How anti-liberalism is destroying America. |
| 0:07.2 | Is it destroying America, or did I just fuck that up? |
| 0:10.1 | It doesn't matter. |
| 0:11.3 | It's a stupid subtitle. |
| 0:12.5 | What difference is it make? |
| 0:14.3 | Your task will not be an easy one. |
| 0:16.6 | Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped in battle-hardened. |
| 0:20.5 | There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. |
| 0:24.1 | There is the United States of America. |
| 0:29.0 | Good night and good luck. |
| 0:30.8 | Hi, folks, and welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. |
| 0:33.3 | I'm your host, Rick Wilson. |
| 0:34.9 | We are joined today by Robert Kagan. |
| 0:37.3 | Robert is a brilliant writer and a |
| 0:39.0 | great thinker. He has a terrific new book out called Rebellion, how anti-liberalism is tearing |
| 0:44.7 | America apart again. Robert, thank you so much for coming on the show. And I want to ask you |
| 0:50.3 | about the origin story of why you decided to write this book. You have always been |
| 0:55.4 | involved in thinking about America's role in the world and our sort of the propositional |
| 1:02.2 | nature of America and what we are and how that plays out not only in the foreign but domestic |
| 1:07.1 | stage. Talk to us about how you came to write this book and give us an overview of |
| 1:12.2 | this anti-liberal movement that's out there. And explain to folks why the word anti-liberalism |
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