On the creative journey, it's easy to get lost, but don't worry, you'll lift up.

Sometimes you just need a creative pep talk.

Hey, you're listening to the creative pep talk podcast. I am your host, Andy J.

Pizza. Oh my goodness gracious. I cannot believe who we have on the podcast today.

It is author Susan Kane. We just talked about Susan's book in the last episode at the end.

And now she's on the show. You might be one of the 31 million people who know Susan from her Ted talk on introverts

or from her number one best selling book on the same topic. It's called Quiet,

the power of introverts in a world that can't stop talking. Being sort of a covert introvert myself,

I found all of that work to be very cathartic. The list of Susan's credentials are out of this world.

For instance, LinkedIn named her the top sixth influencer in the world just behind Richard Branson.

All that is absolutely huge, but none of that is really the reason I asked Susan to be on the show today.

Susan is on the podcast today because of her new book, Bittersweet How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole.

As someone with a character that personifies melancholy tattooed on my left arm,

you can imagine that this book was kind of a spiritual encounter. And it really was.

Like, no joke, I consume this book in less than a day. It sent me into the most otherworldly stratosphere.

And when Susan said that she would be on the podcast, I was blown away. That's all of my loved ones, Kenneth Tass.

I have her shut up about this book. And when she said she'd do the show, I was like, oh man, I cannot deal.

And then to take it to the next level of the conversation was just a complete nutter gift.

Now, not only do I want to have Susan on the show because the book is just incredible,

but it's also a lot about creativity. A lot of creators have a vanity for Bittersweet,

melancholic kind of side of life, and nothing makes most of us happier than a good sad song.

But this book actually directly and explicitly explores how this Bittersweet disposition impacts and correlates with creatives.

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