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Hello and welcome back to Control Out Delete. Today I'm in conversation with Dr. Katie Trian, behavior change expert and director of health strategy at the health insurer Vitality UK.

You might remember I interviewed someone from Vitality a while back about hybrid working, and it's decided to go back there and touch on this topic again, knowing what we know a year on.

Prior to moving into various health roles and moving to Kenya, Katie trained as a medical doctor at Oxford University and Imperial College London.

Katie is passionate about sustainability and longevity in healthcare around the world, and just always finding new ways to push this agenda forward through her work at Vitality.

So today we're talking about hybrid working a year on from the so-called COVID Freedom Day. We're asking how are businesses actually contributing to the health and well-being of those that work for them, and how has work changed and how do we make it better?

Vitality recently partnered with CBI Economics to serve a 350 chief execs, combining this with insights from more than 2,000 workers across the UK to reveal the priorities, the perceptions, and experiences of workplace health and well-being in this new working world.

We'll be discussing these findings and how we can actually create healthier boundaries at work and at home a topic that I love talking about.

If you're interested in reading more about the findings that you can head to the show notes and follow the link, I hope you enjoyed this episode.

You have had such a fascinating career and you've moved around and you do so much. Obviously you love sports, you've trained as a doctor, and you're obviously someone that lives and breathes this theme of health and wellness and well-being.

What does it mean to you in your personal life?

Gosh, what does it mean to me personally is very hard. My personal life is so tied up in having young children and no time, and I think like a lot of people, it's more about how we construct our lives as a group unit, I suppose, as a family.

But I suppose the interesting thing is how I got here really, because to some extent I came from a very clinical angle, having been a doctor, I just saw really how I'd worked in the UK, I'd worked in the US, I worked in Africa, and all health systems are struggling, wherever you are in the world, financially, access, they're all really battling.

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