The scenario doesn't make a difference.

It could be high pressure, it could be low pressure, big, big private ground, whatever the case may be, we're still going to be natural. We're not trying to sound like anything other than a real life here. If you don't believe in Dear Colling or you want to get better, this is the conversation for you. This is with JJ Duquhart. We always start subtle. I think the worst thing you can do is go out and just be real loud. Give them a little bit and just start

working your way up and trying a few different communication methods. I think that's probably your

highest chance. And we break down all the common mistakes folks are making whether to call not to

call, understanding the Deere's body language and the things that most people get wrong, including

myself. I learned a lot in this conversation. So I hope you guys enjoy it. Two quick things before we get into this. The White Tail podcast is brought to you by Moultry, and they just recently made an update in the app to where all the edge images in the Moultry app are four times the quality. So basically, the images used to be smaller, now they're four times as big. And what does this mean? It means you don't have to burn your HD images on every potential big buck picture that you want to see more clear. So a huge update from them and makes noticeably a large difference. Number two, the Mobile Hunters Expo is going to be happening this weekend, August 22nd to the 24th. There's a ton of different vendors, including some of the partners here with the podcast like Hawk Optics. There's going to be a bunch of different prizes that you can win, like sell cameras, sticks, saddles. There's going to be milkweed there if you need some. I know some parts of the country, it's a little harder to find, so you can go to the show and get a bunch of different free gear. On top of that, you can test mobile hunting gear and buy it all in the same spot. You want to try a new saddle? Head there, try it out. Give it a chance. They have a lot of different guest speakers, including folks we've interviewed, like Bobby Worthington. Do you want to go listen to them in person? Maybe you had your own question that I didn't ask in the interview. You can head there and check out Bobby Worthington, Jared Mills, Jake Belinda, Pierce Moore. So if you're in the area, you want to go check out the Mobile Hunters Expo, August 22nd to the 24th in Wilmington, Ohio. Be sure to let them know that the podcast encourage you to go to that. A lot of great vendors, no matter what, basically what you're looking for. So these in-person events, I feel, are great. So here we go. This is JJ. Listen to this, calling your first giant buck. Here we go. JJ, how's it going? It's going great. Another busy day. Heading in the season. Pretty exciting. Yeah, for sure. Excitement is building every single day, I think for me and probably anyone listening to this.

And so I want to dive into a lot of different things here today. But before we do all that, I had bought the extinguisher.

And man, it feels like a little bit of a like I got to have it after I've used it and had success.

But I'm just really kind of fascinated with how you guys got that started. And we were talking on the phone earlier this week. Like I listened to, I think it was a Lindsay. We had a podcast like a long time ago, like 2018 or 2019. And it kind of talked about the story of the business, which I found pretty fascinating, but I don't expect everyone to have

listened to that episode. So I would love to kind of hear like the Cliffdose version of how all

of this, you know, started. Yeah. So really, it's a family business illusion. My dad kicked it off.

He was actually a waterfall outfitter back in the day. So he guided for duck and goose hunting in Rochester here, Rochester, Minnesota.

That's where we're located.

So he was just guiding clients.

I don't know if you've ever waterfall or goose hunted much.

Not a ton.

I've never gone on an outfit at hunt.

I've duck hunted about this many times.

And I've goose hunted a lot more, though.

Yeah, so that's obviously a huge communication hunt versus other hunts, maybe not so much.

But a big communication hunt, you're calling to the geese, you're reading their body language,

you know, trying to get them in.

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