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367: ‘The woke are like zombies’ | Gad Saad

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🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Woke ideology is unfailingly irrational. Claims of systemic oppression in the West are easily disproven. And while activists claim to stand for tolerance and empathy, their intolerance and authoritarianism know no bounds. Here, Gad Saad – evolutionary psychologist, host of The Saad Truth and author of The Parasitic Mind – explains why woke spreads, despite its obvious dangers and contradictions. Indeed, it is the well educated, he argues, who are especially vulnerable to these infectious ideas. To win the culture war, we must inoculate society against this ‘mind virus’.

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towards MS-13 gang members from El Salvador than I am to American vets, that's suicidal empathy.

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If I argue that all immigrants, irrespective of which culture they come from,

1:18.6

are equally likely to assimilate into the whole society, that's suicidal empathy.

1:23.8

If I think it's not really nice to punish felons who've already been arrested 137 times, that's suicide empathy. If I think it's not really nice to punish felons who've already been arrested 137 times,

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that's suicide empathy. Many of our failings and our domestic and foreign policies are due to this

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misfiring of empathy. Hello, I'm Fraser Myers, Deputy Editor of Spikes.

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I'm absolutely thrilled to be joined by Gad SAD.

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Gad, you're an evolutionary psychologist, professor of marketing, and author of The Parasitic Mind.

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