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#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 25 March 2023

⏱️ 148 minutes

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Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, DALL-E, Codex, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(08:41) - GPT-4
(20:06) - Political bias
(27:07) - AI safety
(47:47) - Neural network size
(51:40) - AGI
(1:13:09) - Fear
(1:15:18) - Competition
(1:17:38) - From non-profit to capped-profit
(1:20:58) - Power
(1:26:11) - Elon Musk
(1:34:37) - Political pressure
(1:52:51) - Truth and misinformation
(2:05:13) - Microsoft
(2:09:13) - SVB bank collapse
(2:14:04) - Anthropomorphism
(2:18:07) - Future applications
(2:21:59) - Advice for young people
(2:24:37) - Meaning of life

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT4,

0:07.1

JADGPT, Dolly, Codex, and many other AI technologies which both individually and together

0:14.1

constitute some of the greatest breakthroughs in the history of artificial intelligence,

0:18.8

computing, and humanity in general.

0:22.1

Please allow me to say a few words about the possibilities and the dangers of AI in this

0:27.6

current moment in the history of human civilization.

0:30.6

I believe it is a critical moment.

0:32.8

We stand on the precipice of fundamental societal transformation, where soon nobody knows

0:38.2

when, but many including me believe it's within our lifetime.

0:42.6

The collective intelligence of the human species begins to pale in comparison by many orders

0:48.8

of magnitude to the general superintelligence in the AI systems we build and deploy at

0:56.5

scale.

0:58.6

This is both exciting and terrifying.

1:01.4

It is exciting because of the innumerable applications we know and don't yet know that

1:08.3

will empower humans to create, to flourish, to escape the widespread poverty and suffering

1:14.4

that exists in the world today, and to succeed in that old, all-too-human pursuit of happiness.

1:22.9

It is terrifying because of the power that superintelligent AI wields to destroy human

1:29.2

civilization, intentionally or unintentionally.

1:33.8

The power to suffocate the human spirit in the totalitarian way of George Orwell's

1:39.2

1984 or the Pleasure-Fueled Mass hysteria of Brave New World, where as Huxley saw it,

1:47.6

will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities

1:54.0

to think.

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