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Michael and Us

#367 - Penn and Paintbrush

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Libertarian magicians Penn & Teller turn their gaze to the art world in TIM'S VERMEER (2013), a documentary that attempts to prove that, with just the right set of tools and a lot of money, one wealthy entrepreneur can paint a Vermeer. We discuss the bleak, empty void that is Penn & Teller's view of art. See Luke at the Toronto International Festival of Authors on September 27 - https://festivalofauthors.ca/event/critical-conversation-new-working-class/ Check out Luke's book "The Dead Center" - https://www.orbooks.com/catalog/the-dead-center/

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0:00.0

There's a star man waiting in the sky.

0:04.0

He'd like to come and meet us, but he thinks he'd blow our mind.

0:08.1

There's a star man waiting in the sky.

0:12.2

He's told us not to blow it because he knows it's all worth by and told me.

0:16.7

Welcome to Michael and us.

0:18.2

I'm Will Sloan here again with Luke Savage.

0:21.7

Welcome back, everyone.

0:28.5

So this week I went to see the new movie about David Bowie, Moon Age Daydream. You're a David Bowie fan, right?

0:55.0

I mean, is there anyone who isn't a David Bowie fan? Yeah, I guess I was, I just wanted to establish that this is an area of common ground. Yeah. Yeah, it's called Moon Age Daydream, and it's this two hour, two and a half hour kind of collage-like, immersive sensory experience of, you know, hearing the David Bowie music, seeing a lot of concert footage and music video, interspersed with little bits and pieces of interviews with him, taken out of context. Frankly, I could have done with fewer of his interviews. He's great. He's a smart guy and everything, but I don't

1:00.3

think the interview footage was particularly well chosen. And there are times in talking about

1:06.0

his art when I thought he sounded a little bit like David Brent. But the film's not.

1:11.8

I mean, you're selling me on the film.

1:13.0

That sounds great.

1:13.7

Well, you know, here's the thing.

1:14.7

So if you give me two and a half hours of David Bowie music in a movie theater, I'm

1:19.4

going to have a good time.

1:20.5

But this is an official David Bowie movie.

1:23.3

This is David Bowie Enterprises or whatever is putting out the official David Bowie history.

1:28.3

It's always interesting to see how certain cultural icons evolve and mean different things at different times.

1:33.8

I remember in 1997, there was a movie called Velvet Gold Mine by Todd Haynes, which starred, I think, Ewan McGregor.

1:41.1

And it was basically about David Bowie, and it was about this gay child in

1:46.0

England who followed David Bowie's career. But it's unmistakably about Bowie and about Angie. And one of the

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