#366: Why You Don’t Want to Peak in Your 20s with Meg Jay

The Mark Groves Podcast

Mark Groves

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.9 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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In this episode, I welcome Meg Jay – a developmental clinical psychologist specializing in twentysomethings – who helps tackle the question: are your 20s the best years of your life? Together, we explore the complexities of navigating our 20s and the misconceptions about this period. Meg sheds light on societal pressures, mental health hurdles, and the crucial need for tailored support for individuals in their 20s. She also discusses the power of empathy over stigmas, touches on generational shifts in work culture, and addresses the common obstacles faced by twentysomethings. Whether you're currently in this age group or not, this conversation offers invaluable insights into the support we all require during this pivotal decade of life. Meg Jay, PhD, is the author of The Twentysomething Treatment: A Revolutionary Remedy for an Uncertain Age, Supernormal: The Secret World of the Family Hero and the cult classic The Defining Decade: Why Your Twenties Matter and How to Make the Most of Them Now. Her books have been translated into more than a dozen languages and her work has appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Harvard Business Review and on NPR, BBC and—maybe most important for her audience—TikTok. Her TED talk “Why 30 Is Not the New 20” is among the most watched to date. Dr. Jay earned a doctorate in clinical psychology, and in gender studies, from the University of California, Berkeley. She is on faculty at the University of Virginia and maintains a private practice in Charlottesville. —Meg’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmegjay/ —Meg’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meg-jay-phd/ —Meg’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drmegjay —Meg’s X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/drmegjay —Meg’s Threads: https://www.threads.net/@drmegjay —Meg’s Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Twentysomething-Treatment/Meg-Jay/9781668012291 If you want to dive deeper into Mark’s content, search through every episode, find specific topics we’ve covered, and ask him questions, go to his Dexa page: https://dexa.ai/markgroves Themes: Authenticity, Belonging, Relationships, Self-Worth, Self-Love, Transformation, Career, Mental Health, Purpose, Empathy, Personal Growth, Twenties This episode is sponsored by: —Cozy Earth: Use code GROVES for 40% off sitewide at http://www.cozyearth.com —FACTOR: Use code MARKGROVES50 to save 50% at http://factormeals.com/markgroves50 Contact us at podcast@markgroves.com for sponsor product support, questions, comments, or just to say hello!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	I've spent most of our time saying, oh, man, the 20s are so hard. And I know that because I've
0:05.1	been working in this space behind closed doors for 25 years. But the expectation that we get from
0:12.1	culture that idealizes youth or from social media where, you know, it's supposed to be this
0:17.0	super glamorous time where, you know, going to all these amazing parties and you look
0:20.8	fantastic. Is it people hear that their 20s are going to be the best years of their lives,
0:25.8	empirically, for all the reasons I've been talking about the whole time we've been chatting,
0:29.8	this is not the case. And that's really good news. It's probably not also the time of life
0:35.7	when you're going to have everything sorted and figured out
0:38.4	and like check the box and declare completion.
0:42.5	That's really not what's going to happen in your 20s.
0:44.8	And honestly, I'm confused about why people keep thinking this still.
0:49.0	I thought the memo was out that, yeah, you got to start working on it i mean i'm the defining decade lady but you're
0:56.4	not going to be done at 30 everything's not going to be done you just better be working on it
1:06.0	hello and welcome to another episode of the mark groves podcast. Today I'm joined by Meg J. Welcome.
1:13.2	Hey, hey, Mark. Great. Great to be here. Well, I'm so excited you're here because I think I could
1:19.2	no, I don't think. I know I could have used you when I was in my 20s. I mean, probably beyond my 20s.
1:24.9	Let's be honest. But, you know, I feel like your work really speaks to just the level of transformation that's asked of us in our 20s.
1:35.0	And in all the, we think we have time.
1:38.3	You know, I think that's often the challenge when we're in our 20s.
1:41.3	And I also thought I knew everything, which I got a cosmic two by four to the head on that one.
1:45.7	Oh, right.
1:46.7	Nice.
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