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🗓️ 3 July 2023
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The Guilty Feminist episode 365. World Refugee Week
Presented by Deborah Frances-White and Fatiha El-Ghorri with special guests Jaz O’Hara and Hiba
Recorded 22 June at Kings Place in London. Released 3 July 2023.
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0:30.4 | prison terms. We hear some surprising stories and unexpected twists as these mothers confront the |
0:36.7 | challenges of raising their children well behind bars. I mean, personally, I'm an abolitionist, |
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1:11.2 | for free on UK TV Play. I'm a feminist, but this week somebody told me, um, very spiritual |
1:21.5 | person, and she told me that in ancient Egypt, um, high priestesses, when a young, you know, |
1:29.3 | teenage girl was a age where she started to get sexual urges, the high priestesses would take |
1:34.4 | her into a room, and they would show her how to pleasure herself, that pleasure was sacred, |
1:40.0 | and they would teach her how to bring herself to orgasm, and their mother would be present, |
1:46.2 | her grandmother would be present, and it would be seen as something really, really sacred, |
1:51.0 | and that women would pass on to each other, and I'm a feminist, but I think we should bring |
1:55.6 | about, I'm all for, I just think, what isn't that great? No, can you imagine? Okay, my mom would |
2:03.9 | be like, Fatiha, you're doing it wrong. Honestly, I used to make bread when I was six, and she would |
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