Let's go.

Welcome to Citizen.

We have a special guest today for what I'm being told is the third time.

Bill Thompson of Spartan Forge.

Hi.

Hello.

How are things?

Good.

And you?

I'm doing well.

Yeah, doing well.

Good.

Excellent.

By the time this goes out, it will already be public.

So we don't know how people are going to react to you being on Joe Rogan.

No. Could it go well and it could not go well. Yeah. We'll see. Right. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. How are you feeling about it?

I mean, I feel pretty good about it. I think I said earlier, like, I used one anecdote. I thought about everything I said afterwards.

I used one anecdote that I lifted from someone else and kind of, you know, morphed it and made it my own. From VDH. From VDH. He's one of my favorite thinkers. I've read all of his books. He is very good. Yeah, he's one of the more, regardless of how you feel about what's going on with

u.s foreign policy and iran and shit like that he's been a very calm voice kind of describing

even when i disagree with him i see his points yeah um like you he likes to talk antiquity and uh i

really like that stuff and uh you know uh you the wars in Sparta, other things like that.

And I love his take on history. Wait, did he do anything on the Thebans, the gay ones?

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