Welcome to the Burling Instincts Podcast.

I'm Dr. Stewart Fishbein, community-based practicing obstetrician and longtime advocate for birth choices.

And I'm Bliss Young, a licensed midwife.

Join us in our conversational style podcast where we talk about everything birth.

Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry, but we're happy that you're here. So here we go.

Good evening and good middle of night, everybody.

Fellow travelers, Patreon members, newcomers.

It's Dr. Stu.

Bliss is at a birth today doing what Bliss does best.

So it's going to be me today with our guests who will be coming on a little bit.

Our guests will be our old friend, Lindsay Milis.

But coming on with her will be Dr. Payush Patel.

And Puyush Patel is a neonatologist who works in a NICU.

And we're going to, he's sort of not your typical neonatologist that we talk about sometimes on the podcast, and he's going to come on and give us

some insight into his journey to being a Ninoatologist and some of the things that he sees and deals

with and how he does it slightly differently,

which I think will be interesting because a lot of us have had problems with what we call lovingly baby jail and other things like that. So we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, grab my glasses here,

got rid of my sunglasses. I was just down for breakfast with my daughter. I'm in her

tiny closet-sized apartment here in New York City, and we had a great few days.

I'm headed back to Utah today and then off to Minnesota the following day for my first of several reteach breach and twin seminars.

So a couple things. First of all, I had a really good time here in New York, and I got to meet a man named David Englehart who wrote a book called Good Kills, Good God, and the Sword.

David is a pastor and a lawyer, and he's working on a mini documentary on the overuse of Cesarian section.

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