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Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt

364: Winning Is Everything, Stupid With Gov. Steve Bullock

Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt

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News, News Commentary, Politics, National, Government

4.63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

James and Al game out the implications of Trump’s foreign policy following the ceasefire with Iran, analyze the growing schism in the MAGA movement, and examine the shift toward Democrats and Independents in recent off-year elections.  Then they welcome former MT Governor Steve Bullock to discuss winning in the Mountain West, strategies for independents and Democrats in Red areas, how to connect with rural voters, the importance of values that resonate with everyday people, and how to address cultural issues head-on.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Politics War Room with James Carbo and I'm Al Hunt. This week our guest

0:14.0

is a former governor of Montana and a highly informed democratic strategist, Steve Bullock.

0:22.2

Remember, we love taking your questions,

0:24.6

so write to PoliticsWRouram at eMail.com for next week's show.

0:28.9

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0:33.2

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1:19.0

You know, James, the president, the defense secretary, and media cheerleaders like Fox News,

1:26.2

and Eli Lake of the right-wing free press, all said a brilliant victory achieved by Trump's genius.

1:29.6

So I guess there was unconditional surrender,

1:35.5

total regime change, right? Because that's what he said was going to happen. I don't think it quite worked out that way. What they have not told us, two weeks of negotiations,

1:41.5

sure, Iran's leaders in military were devastated. There was no regime change,

1:45.8

however, as promised. The regime today may be worse than the one before the abused citizens

1:50.7

he was going to come to the rescue in January. They probably are worse off. And Iran,

1:56.8

whereas their missiles have certainly been reduced.

2:01.2

Their Air Force and their Navy devastated,

2:03.6

they have a new weapon that may be far more lethal.

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