364) Helena Norberg-Hodge: Reorienting towards economics of happiness
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2022
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
“There’s a lot of awareness about the direct lobbying of big money in politics. But that doesn’t take into account the much more dangerous way that big money is shaping the narrative through the media, even through funding in science and academia. That has led to this narrow fixation on carbon and an embrace of robots and satellites as the way to deal with climate change.”
In this episode, we revisit our past conversation with Helena Norberg-Hodge, a pioneer of the new economy movement and a leading proponent of “localization” (or decentralization). As the author of Ancient Futures and Local is Our Future, she also founded The International Alliance for Localization and Local Futures, which works to renew ecological, social and spiritual wellbeing by guiding communities towards a sustainable future of interconnected, localized economies.
Some of the topics we explore in this conversation include the limitations of using economic wealth as the indicator of a community’s quality of life, the false promises of “progress” and “development”, how economic globalization has been driving an erosion of relationships, and more.
(The musical offering featured in this episode is Tear Down the Wall by Forest Veil.)
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| 0:00.0 | I have a quick but important ask. As you're probably aware, Green Dreamer is an independent |
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| 0:55.7 | Hey, it's your host, Kamea, and you're listening to Green Dreamer, a community-powered podcast. |
| 1:01.5 | To be honest, we need more listener donations to be able to keep this show alive, |
| 1:06.1 | because as you can see, we no longer do product advertisements, and we really want to keep it this way because we don't want to sell you things you don't need. |
| 1:14.6 | And more importantly, we knew we needed to shed the incentive of appealing to corporate sponsors so that we can maintain our very critical lenses and continue to question a lot of mainstream ideas and big green narratives. |
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| 1:48.0 | Now, in order for us to live lives where we can respect that richness and diversity of life, |
| 1:54.6 | we must scale down, we must slow down. |
| 1:58.2 | And that's really what localization is about. |
| 2:05.5 | Today we are revisiting our past conversation with Helena Norbergh Hodge, a pioneer of the new economy movement and a |
| 2:11.3 | leading proponent of localization also sometimes referred to as decentralization. As the author of Ancient Futures and Local Is Our Future, |
| 2:21.1 | she also founded the International Alliance for Localization and Local Futures, |
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