From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 364.

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My name is Mike Heiley and I'm joined by Jason Snow.

Hi Jason Snow.

Hi Mike Heiley.

It's good to hear you.

It's good to have you here on Upgrade.

It like normal.

Of course.

Nice.

Hashtag Snow Talk question comes from instantiate this who asks Jason, when you make hot tea

before drinking the tea, do you cool it down of ice cubes or water or do you wait patiently

for it to cool down or can you just take burning hot tea?

Wow.

What?

A question.

Ice cubes.

I have done the ice cube thing very, very, very rarely.

It's generally when it's in a thermos or something where it's never going to get cooler.

Generally, well, first off, let me tell you again about the tea robot.

I have this Breville automatic tea maker.

So what you do is you put in the water and then you put the tea in a little basket and

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