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#364 – Chris Voss: FBI Hostage Negotiator

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 136 minutes

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Summary

Chris Voss is a former FBI hostage and crisis negotiator and author of Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(06:31) - Negotiation
(12:21) - Reason vs Emotion
(27:17) - How to listen
(36:06) - Negotiation with terrorists
(38:14) - Brittney Griner
(39:53) - Putin and Zelenskyy
(47:13) - Donald Trump
(54:23) - When to walk away
(58:37) - Israel and Palestine
(1:06:16) - Al-Qaeda
(1:11:46) - Three voices of negotiation
(1:20:11) - Strategic umbrage
(1:23:18) - Mirroring
(1:26:29) - Labeling
(1:33:55) - Exhaustion
(1:36:09) - The word "fair"
(1:39:06) - Closing the deal
(1:41:03) - Manipulation and lying
(1:42:58) - Conversation vs Negotiation
(1:54:17) - The 7-38-55 Rule
(1:58:16) - Chatbots
(2:07:39) - War
(2:09:10) - Advice for young people

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Chris Voss, former FBI hostage and crisis negotiator,

0:06.2

and author of Never Split the Difference, negotiating as if your life depended on it.

0:13.5

And now a quick two second mention of the sponsor.

0:16.2

Check them out in the description.

0:17.8

It's the best way to support this podcast.

0:19.8

We got Shopify for e-commerce, indeed for hiring great teams, and in set tracker for

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biological data.

0:28.1

She's wise in my friends.

0:29.9

So if you want to work with our team, or always hiring, could alexfreedman.com slash

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hiring.

0:36.4

And now onto the fall ad reads, as always, no ads in the middle.

0:40.4

I try to make this interesting, but if you must skip them, please still check out our sponsors.

0:45.4

I enjoy their stuff.

0:46.8

Maybe you will too.

0:49.5

This show is brought to you by Shopify.

0:51.9

A platform designed for anyone to sell anywhere with a great looking online store that

0:56.5

brings your ideas to life and tools to manage day to day operations.

1:01.2

And it also taunts me, Lex, for being a lazy person, because I should have already set

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up a little shop for selling merch, which people have been asking me for.

1:13.5

Just a couple of t-shirts that allow you to celebrate a thing you're into, which I love

1:18.9

doing.

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I'm into a lot of stuff.

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