#363 It’s Time to End Same-Sex Marriage— A Child-Centered Case | Katy Faust
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🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
What if the real victims of marriage redefinition were never the adults—but the children?
In this explosive conversation, Katie Faust joins me to talk about her bold new Greater Than Campaign and why it’s time for Christians to stop whispering about marriage, family, IVF, surrogacy, and child commodification. Katie argues that when we center adult desire, children always lose—and the fallout of Obergefell has proven exactly that.
We discuss why children need a mother and a father, how marriage law reshaped parenthood law, why conservatives have often made the wrong argument, and how the church must recover the courage to speak clearly about what is best for kids.
This episode is not just about politics. It’s about justice for children, biblical truth, and answering the biggest cultural questions of our time.
We cover:
Why Katie says it’s time to end gay marriage
How Obergefell changed parenthood, IVF, and surrogacy
Why children—not adults—are the true victims
How the church can stop playing defense
Why today’s culture war is really about what it means to be human
Learn more at GreaterThanCampaign.com
Connect with Katie at ThemBeforeUs.com
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| 0:00.0 | nobody in those public schools were saying, what can I do to be saved? They were all saying, |
| 0:06.5 | they were all saying, why won't you use my pronouns? Exactly, exactly. And my people needed an |
| 0:11.7 | answer to that, an answer that was grounded in scripture, but then evidenced by the world that |
| 0:17.3 | God has made and the sociological harms that go from confusing and blurring the line |
| 0:21.2 | between male and female. And you know what's interesting, some of those people ended up at my church. |
| 0:40.2 | Katie Foust. Katie is an absolute beast, and I mean that in the best way possible. She is bold and courageous. She is literally |
| 0:45.3 | changing the world by advocating for people who can't advocate or speak for themselves. And I'm |
| 0:51.3 | talking about our children. We've had her on the show before to talk about her |
| 0:55.3 | book, Them Before Us, why we need a global children's rights movement. And she has actually |
| 1:00.8 | accomplished that global children's rights movement today with the greater than campaign, |
| 1:05.7 | which we're going to talk about today, a campaign that I am incredibly honored to endorse |
| 1:10.2 | and be a part of and help promote. So I remember |
| 1:13.5 | way back before the decision was made to legalize gay marriage and people were saying things on |
| 1:19.3 | social media like it's not going to affect your life. It's not going to change anything. No one's |
| 1:23.9 | going to be hurt by this. But all these years later, we see that there is a rise in IVF |
| 1:28.7 | in surrogacy. There is a rise sadly in abortion. And what Katie argues is that when we changed |
| 1:35.5 | the definition of marriage from something that was biblical to something that really centered just |
| 1:41.3 | the emotional needs of adults, everything changed. And when the |
| 1:45.1 | emotional needs of adults is centered and is viewed as primary, children always suffer. And that's |
| 1:51.4 | where we are today. So I want to invite my audience to really consider being a part of the |
| 1:55.6 | greater than campaign. It's a campaign to end gay marriage. And this is what really is the best for the children. And I hope you'll understand more about that as we get into this conversation with Katie Faust. |
| 2:07.4 | Katie, great to have you back on the show. For anybody who's unfamiliar with you, we're going to be talking about your greater than campaign, which I'm very excited about. I think it's about time and it's very important, |
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