Hi, I'm Helen and I'm Sarah and you're listening to the Squiggly Careers podcast, a weekly podcast where we talk about the ups, downs, ins and outs of work and give you some skills and a bit of support, some tools to try out so that you can feel a little bit more confident and in control of your career.

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squigglycareers.com. And so this week, we're talking about how to find time to think, which is

something that I hear myself say, something that I always hear other people say, sort of if only I

had more time to think. And I was reflecting on why this is something that comes up in

conversation so frequently. And so often I think people liken it to the moments where you feel

like you're stuck on a hamster wheel. So you know, you just feel like you're going round

around in circles, loads of urgent stuff to get done. And you feel like you can't escape

that hamster wheel.

There's sort of no way of stopping and getting some time to think, which then often leads

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