I just want to let our listeners know this is a pretty tough case we're going to be discussing.

So engage in self-care, please, when you listen to this and just know that the reason we talk about

these things is because we want people to be aware so that other children don't suffer the same faith. Hello and welcome the best case worst case this is Jim Clemente retired

FBI profiler former New York City prosecutor

writer producer of criminal minds.

And unfortunately, Francieke isn't with us today

because she's not feeling well.

I think she's just sick of me.

That's really what I think it is but I do have

our returning very special very close friend and that is

Detective Kevin McNeil how you Detective Kevin McNeil.

How you doing, Kev?

I'm good man.

Jim is always good to see you.

You know, it's always great to have you back and I hope that we can, you know about another case today yes sir I would love to

first questions always where were you in your career when this case happened oh yeah man

I was about a 13 year detective. I was wow. So that's you were detective for that's yeah, I was all the time I was almost in the end of my career basically. It's probably coming on one of my last cases probably

really yeah I was yeah probably into my

my 12 year 12 12 year, something like that.

Okay, so you've done eight years as a street cop?

Eight years of street cop and 12 years as a detective.

So I probably was right in that 11 12 year range.

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