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361: ‘The EU is laughing at us’ | David Frost on Starmer’s surrender

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🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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This is the audio from a video we have just published on our YouTube channel – an interview with David Frost. To make sure you never miss great content like this, subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@spiked 

Keir Starmer’s ‘Brexit reset’ is a comprehensive betrayal of the Leave vote. That’s the verdict of Lord Frost, former chief Brexit negotiator for Boris Johnson. Here, he tells spiked why this is such a bad deal for Britain. Frost slams Starmer for handing control over food, fishing, energy and more to Brussels, and for so little in return. This surrender to the EU, he warns, is dangerous for democracy, sovereignty and the UK economy. 

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Fraser here. What you're about to hear is the audio from a video we've just published on our YouTube channel,

0:05.8

an interview with David Frost, the former chief Brexit negotiator on Kirstama's surrender deal.

0:12.4

To make sure you never miss great content like this, make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com forward slash spiked.

0:21.7

Brexit minister Lord Ross.

0:23.8

Our country is now sovereign again.

0:25.9

Crucial part of Boris Johnson's government.

0:28.1

This is an extremely bad deal.

0:30.9

This deal is a win-win.

0:33.0

Given the way that the team were taken to the cleaners in the last few days,

0:36.9

I would expect further concessions.

0:39.4

We're turning a page. We're opening a new chapter. Why have we paid such a high price in sovereignty

0:45.7

and control? Seems increasingly unlikely that we will have a conservative government. The day we're

0:51.2

speaking, a poll has put your party in fourth place.

0:54.8

We've got to get serious. I don't yet see the evidence for it.

1:03.0

Hello, I'm Fraser Myers. I'm absolutely thrilled to be joined by Lord David Frost,

1:07.9

the former Chief Brexit negotiator under Boris Johnson and a conservative life

1:11.8

peer. Welcome, David. Great to be here, thanks. We're speaking in the week that Kirstama has

1:17.0

agreed his Brexit reset. Now, the Prime Minister has described this as a win-win for both sides. Do you

1:24.5

think he's right? Well, it depends what you're trying to win, I guess, is the honest answer.

1:30.3

It's certainly a win for the EU because it's brought significant areas of our economic life

1:36.3

back under their control.

1:38.3

If you're somebody like Kirstama who sees the purpose in his life and in this country's existence in getting closer to the

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