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#361 - Evidence of a Soul, NASA’s $1,000,000,000 Study & Awareness at Death | Stuart Hameroff

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Danny Jones

Comedy, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.4777 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 154 minutes

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Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Stuart Hameroff is an astrobiologist, retired anesthesiologist and leader of the Science of Consciousness conferences at the University of Arizona. Hameroff is best known for his controversial belief that consciousness originates from quantum states in neural microtubules. SPONSORS https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DANNY - Use code DANNY to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. https://shopmando.com - Use code DANNY to get $5 off your Starter Pack. https://dupe.com - Find similar products for less - 100% free to use. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://x.com/StuartHameroff https://consciousness.arizona.edu/science-consciousness-2026 FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Connection between anesthesia & consciousness 02:14 - How anesthesia works 08:54 - Overdosing vs. underdosing anesthesia 12:31 - Scariest patients to administer anesthesia to 15:45 - Why computers can't replicate consciousness 21:18 - Consciousness & the collapse of the wave function 29:15 - Consciousness is fundamental, not emergent 30:19 - Simulation theory is a "cop-out" 34:29 - NASA's OSIRIS-REx Asteroid sample return mission 40:56 - The origin of life on Earth 42:20 - Microtubules & time crystals 43:58 - Evidence of consciousness in plants 46:27 - Why microtubules could be the source of consciousness 48:25 - Can AI develop consciousness? 53:48 - Psilocybin consciousness experiment 55:08 - What happens to consciousness when the body dies 01:01:53 - Consciousness is controlled by our subconscious 01:03:32 - How evolution is driven by consciousness & pleasure 01:06:47 - Life is the vehicle for consciousness 01:10:32 - How to create consciousness from scratch 01:13:13 - Consciousness in the afterlife & reincarnation 01:15:23 - Consciousness is a hologram 01:17:35 - How psychedelics elevate consciousness 01:23:25 - The logic of dreams 01:25:37 - memories encoded in organ transplants 01:32:07 - How to confirm microtubules hypotheses 01:35:53 - The leading Alzheimer's treatment is a scam 01:41:41 - Top Alzheimer's treatment researchers VANISHED 01:44:20 - New theoretical Alzheimer's cure 01:50:08 - Beneficial effects of ultrasound therapy 01:53:58 - Dangers of ultrasound technology 01:59:18 - New study on ultrasound on the brain 02:06:11 - Proof of ultrasound reversing Alzheimer's 02:09:10 - Quantum consciousness + parapsychology 02:16:42 - Neuron biology & why the brain is more than a computer 02:20:09 - Suspicious movement of plasma ball lightning 02:23:18 - Anesthesia vs. the corona effects Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How does a anesthesiologist get so deep into this consciousness stuff?

0:13.3

Actually, I got interested in consciousness first in undergraduate back in the 60s, and then I went to medical school and was interested in brain

0:23.5

mind specialties like neurology, neurosurgery, psychiatry, but they didn't grab me from the

0:28.8

lifestyle standpoint. I didn't like what they did on a day-to-day basis. I did research in a cancer

0:34.7

lab and studied how cells divide and how the chromosomes are perfectly

0:40.0

separated in exact daughter pairs and for mitosis and then they go on and divide again and again

0:49.1

and everybody else in the lab got interested in the chromosomes the genes but for some reason

0:53.1

I got interested in the structures that pulled them apart and separated them, mitotic spindles made of

0:59.2

microtubules. They seem to have some kind of intelligence, some kind of consciousness, and I've

1:03.7

been interested in consciousness from before, and so I got fixated on the microtubules, and everybody

1:08.4

us in the lab went into the chromosomes, the genes, and probably genetic engineering and whatnot, but I stuck with the microtubules. Everybody's in the lab, went into the chromosomes, the genes, and probably genetic engineering

1:12.7

and whatnot.

1:13.9

But I stuck with the microtubules, and I then went to Arizona for an internship and wound

1:22.0

up going into anesthesia because my future chairman said, if you want to understand consciousness,

1:26.2

figure out how anesthesia works. And by the way, microtubules are deplomerized by anesthesia, which turned out to be true.

1:33.5

They're what? They're deplomerized. If you give enough anesthesia and too much, more than you need

1:38.9

to go to sleep, your microtubules will fall apart. And the microtubules are the cytoskeleton inside all cells, including neurons.

1:47.0

So neurons are quite full of them.

1:49.0

And if you give about five times too much anesthesia, which you wouldn't want to do, the

1:54.0

microtubules would disassemble.

1:56.0

And that was done in simple organisms that didn't care about.

1:59.0

But it made a connection between microtubils,

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