Federico, it is it's so good to hear your voice. I do hope that after the show

the world goes a little bit better than it did the last time you were on. Do you remember?

Oh my gosh, that was right. Was that right before the lockdowns? Like I remember we were talking like

is this gonna last

for a few months like that was spring 2020. Yep, the last time you were gracious enough to be the

guest my guest on this show was at the end of February. Yeah, the show probably came out in the

beginning of March. I didn't check of 2020 and Italy was going through at the time seemed to

have an abnormally large problem with. Have you heard of it? It's called it was called COVID-19.

No, it was a novel coronavirus. Oh gosh. And in hindsight, I cannot believe how much at the time

I just chalked it up to well, I feel bad for all of my friends and the whole country of Italy that

they've had such rotten luck with this as opposed to what in hindsight was clearly Italy is just

going first. Yeah, and I remember having the conversation with you about like, do you think

Apple is going to postpone that we have you see? And I remember you saying, well, no, I don't think

they are. I think they can still pull off an event. And then of course, we know how that went.

I was like much of the world at that two week period before all the shutdowns far.

I don't even I was going to say optimistic. I think better word would be naive and in denial

about how significant it was, but really it's quite quite a lot has happened outside the area

of Apple technology design, all the stuff we talk about since the last time you were on. I hope

you're I hope that like it's funny because you were we're recording this literally the day after

Elon Musk took over Twitter. So I'm not sure if it's just like another one of those things like

what's going to happen before like if you ever invite me back like it's is this like a bed sign?

Am I bad luck for global events whenever I come on the talk show? I hope not. Oh gosh.

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