At about the same time that the Gabby Petito case was so high profile and they said here we are in Wyoming right here in Wind River where we have missing women all the time and zero attention.

We decided to do this documentary about what the situation is to let people know because until everybody knows and until everybody speaks up about it,

it's still going to be the same problem over and over and over again. Hello and welcome to Best Case Worst Case

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profile of former New York City

prosecutor writer producer of criminal minds and with me today retired FBI profile of former New York City prosecutor

writer-producer of criminal minds.

And with me today is?

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes,

former state and federal prosecutor

and executive producer and writer of Audible's next level featuring Brian Branch.

Jim, how are you?

I'm pretty good Brancy, how are you?

I'm good.

Things are, you know, it's fall, it's my favorite time of year here in Atlanta.

Thank you and it makes me happy I mean because the weather is turning cooler

I have to break out the sweaters and the coats and the jackets and I don't know

fall means Christmas is coming.

Yeah, believe it or not, I started doing that too here.

I mean, you know, it's, I'm sure,

gonna be a lot less cold here,

but for some reason when the temperature drops 20

degrees even though it goes from you know 75 or 60 to

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