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The Rest Is History

360. Fear City: New York in the 1970s

The Rest Is History

Goalhanger

History

4.626.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

“A cloud of black, acrid smoke hung over the area. It was a scene from a warzone, a battlefield - it was a scene from the end of the world…” New York in the 1970s was a city decimated by economic stagnation, unemployment and ever-rising crime rates, haemorrhaging its population to the suburbs and to the more business-friendly South. Join Tom and Dominic as they look at the 1977 power blackout, the looting of New York, and life in the real Gotham City. *The Rest Is History Live Tour 2023*: Tom and Dominic are back on tour this autumn! See them live in London, New Zealand, and Australia! Buy your tickets here: restishistorypod.com Twitter:  @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ivey Stevens had been looking forward to the 13th of July for weeks. She and her husband

0:14.7

had planned their big night out long in advance, and as it approached it was hard not to be

0:19.4

excited. It had been a dreadfully muggy, oppressive day, with temperatures heading well

0:24.3

into the 90s, and Manhattan's crowded streets swelled with noise and sweat and heat. It

0:31.3

was still dreadfully hot and humid that evening, and it was a relief, therefore, for Ivey to

0:36.1

walk into the air-conditioned light and coolness of the World Trade Centre. It's gleaming

0:41.6

towers still only a few years old, and ride the elevator what 107 floors up to windows

0:47.4

on the world, the elegant restaurant that looked out across the city. And of course the evening

0:52.9

was every bit as exceptional and memorable as she had hoped. From her table, she could

0:57.6

see the whole of the city laid out beneath her, a patterned blanket of blinking lights

1:02.7

beneath a darkening sky. It was amazing, she said later. We were looking out at the most

1:08.3

spectacular view in the world. New York at night, when suddenly it disappeared. Now that

1:16.8

Dominic Sandbrook was written by a top historian of 1970s America, in his magnum opus, Mad

1:24.0

as Hell, and that author, I think, was commissioned to write 140,000 words, and he ended up writing

1:29.2

500,000 words. So, hundreds of thousands of words had to be cut.

1:34.7

Shaming, that's a shaming moment. And that was your self. But these chapters on 70s

1:39.9

America that had to be cut are all so good. So never let anything go to waste, Dominic.

1:44.1

Listeners may remember the two episodes we did on the full of Saigon, which we kind of cannibalized

1:50.3

chapters that you'd had to cut. And today we are doing the same with a chapter on New York

1:56.4

in the 70s. And we're doing that because we're recording this episode as part of the tour that

2:03.0

we're doing of the United States. We did a show in Washington. And as part of that, we did an

2:10.4

episode on Martin Luther King's Great Speech. I have a dream, which was the previous episode that

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