And This is the secret lives of black women. I'm Charla and I'm Lauren and today we're doing our final episode. Yeah this is this is the

last episode of the secret lives of black women and it may come as a surprise

because we're just saying it now in the last episode.

But this is a decision that you and I have

sat with and thought about for quite some time.

Yeah.

We have decided that, you know,

we've done really big work with this podcast and it feels at least to me like this is such a big

important chapter of my life, but for both of us we're in these moments where it's time to turn a page?

Yeah, I think that what we've made with this podcast,

I think we've covered topics that were very important.

We've talked to like a lot of great people.

And I'm a big believer in things being like complete

when they're complete.

We very much made this podcast

to be something that you could listen to all the time.

Like, we tried to do it.

We tried to make episodes that were evergreen,

that were about specific topics to black women

that you can go back to and you can reference

if you like the India Ari album Acoustic Soul

which is something that I still go back to at different points in my life

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