Hello and welcome to Close Reads here on the Circe Institute Podcast Network. I'm David Kern,

and as always here on Close Reads, I am joined by Angelina Stanford, and normally by Tim McIntosh, but alas, Tim is not joining

us today.

He has, he is otherwise occupied and just couldn't make the show this week.

So Angelina and I are holding down the fort for you this week.

Angelina, how's it going?

It's going well.

I told Tim earlier that I was going to just go ahead and pause during the show for any time that I thought it would be like a Tim response to me.

You know, like, oh, yes, Angelina, I really agree with that.

Or we should have, we should have him record a bunch of those.

So, like, if this happens again, you can just insert them.

I'll just pause and like, that's brilliant.

Enthusiasmatic Tim praise.

Yes, exactly.

In fact, I just said, how am I supposed to know if I say anything clever if I don't have you there to like heartily affirm me?

Yeah.

Well, I'll make a point to be super enthusiastic in my praise of the smart things you say.

Like when you say something, I'll be like, oh, what a great point, Angelina.

I'll just go overboard just so you make sure you feel extra.

You're not the actor that Tim is, David.

I'm not feeling.

I'm fine sincerity.

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