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I'm Brett. And I'm Alice Alice and we are the prosecutors. Today on the prosecutors, we continue our look at the murder on Songbird Road.

Music I'm Oh My Hello, everyone and welcome to this episode of The Prosecutors.

I'm Brett, and I'm joined, as always, by my astronautical co-host, Alice.

Big day.

Not just because we're recording, but because finally, those of us who doubted the moon landing can be either further in the conspiracy or proven wrong today.

Going back to the moon, baby.

Going back to the moon baby.

Back to the moon.

Back or to the first time.

Either way. Either way. We're at the moon. Yeah. We're not there yet. By the time you hear this, we'll be there.

We're not staying this time. We're just doing a drive-by. We're going to say hello and then come back.

They're going further than anybody's ever gone before though. It's like Star Trek or something. Pretty cool. That is kind of terrifying. Yeah. And I know there are already people who grew up during some devastating launches. I can't actually bring myself to watch them in real time because I'm afraid. So we... Something's going to happen. So obviously the kids wanted to see it and we wanted to see it. So we paused it for three minutes. Just in case. And then my wife and I watched it on our phone just to make sure it went fine. And they were like, okay, kids, they're getting ready to launch the rocket. So sorry kids if you're listening to this later. So it's not just me who has the like true like fear. And that's not even watch it with with my kids. I was just like I don't know that I can watch it in real time. Look, I remember Challenger and one of the things people always say about Challenger, which is a lie, and you saw this on Twitter today, that most people who saw Challenger didn't see it live, they saw it replay. That is not true.

No. People say that all the time. You could watch all the launches. And I watched all the space shuttle launches with my mom. We watched them in school. They were roll in the cart with the big car from the library because you had to like, and it was strapped on with like that little like moving strap. And then they'd push it in. and then we watched like all the launches live.

Yeah, and I remember watching it with my mom. And it was strapped on with like that little like moving strap. And then they push it in. And then we watched like all the launches live.

Yeah. And I remember watching it with my mom. And obviously it went horribly wrong. And I was

confused about what's going on. And my mom's like bursting into tears. And yeah. So that was

like, is that an effect? Was that supposed to happen because i don't know because

there's lots of smoke what it takes off and i remember every other launch i watched after the big

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