This is the Daily Signal Podcast for Wednesday, December 12th.

I'm Jenny Maltobano.

And I'm Daniel Davis.

Well, stem cell research has been a topic of controversy, but a related issue is raising some similar concerns.

That is, whether fetal tissue from elective abortions should be used for scientific research.

In today's episode our colleague Rachel Del Judas sits down with several experts to ask

what human dignity requires on this issue,

as well as what the Trump administration is doing to pursue

ethical policies. Plus our White House correspondent Fred Lucas joins us to

unpack Trump's heated debate with Democrats over wall funding.

But first we'll cover a few of the top headlines.

While President Trump sure got into it with Democratic leaders on Tuesday over border security and funding for the border wall.

The President held a press conference in the Oval Office with House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to discuss funding

to keep the government open and the president continued to insist on funding for the border

wall.

Let's just say things got heated.

We have a disagreement about the wall.

Washington, whether it's effective or not on border security but on the wall.

We do not want to shut down the government. You have called 20 times to shut down the government. You say,

I want to shut down the government. We don't. We want to come to an agreement. If we can't come

to an agreement, we have solutions that will pass the House and Senate right now

and will not shut down the government and that's what we're urging you to do. Not threaten to shut

...