Hey y'all, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Mary Payne here and guys, I'm very excited because

we're going to get to talk about Bravo this week. Not all the Bravo, don't get excited.

You know, I don't watch everything, but we're going to talk about Salt Lake City. We're

going to talk about Beverly Hills and we're going to talk about My Neck of the Woods Potomac.

And I've got a very special guest host, which is Rebecca Sebastian from the podcast

criminality. And Rebecca was recommended to me by our other love after lockup correspondent,

Kimberly from a date with date line. So it's like, uh, this is perfect because we're

talking about criminals and you specialize the true crime.

Yeah, this really is, um, right up my alley. I met Katie Kimberly and Melissa, my co-host

from criminality from my other podcast like you. There's always more than one podcast, right?

Yes, yes, which is called dialogue. And that's a true crime interview show. So I've got them

on the podcast. I had Melissa, which is how she and I actually met. And then this earlier,

just this year, we started criminality, which was amazing timing. Yeah, the two of you joined forces.

Yes. And then you each have your other side gigs. Exactly. Exactly. Yes. Because Melissa is

moms in murder for the two guys who don't know that everybody. I think everybody knows moms in

murder date with date line. You know, we all are like, oh geez. Yeah. I mean, especially moms

in murder, the podcast, the true crime podcast space, I think they're going on four years now.

I mean, they were doing it when not podcasting wasn't new entirely, but doing what they were doing,

they were definitely some of the pioneers. So yeah, two chicks talking. Yeah, talking.

I'm in murder. Okay. So since we are talking about criminals, tell me a bit about your background.

And you know, about because I know you've got like a, you have a podcast network. Is that correct?

Oh, no, but I like this. I like this description. I'm part of a podcast network.

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