359: ASK NOT Deep Dive! Jackie Kennedy Onassis: Love, Loss & Camelot
Pop Apologists
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🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
Lauren and Chanler are back with the long-awaited deep dive into Maureen Callahan’s book Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed. Including a raw, unflinching look at Jackie Kennedy Onassis, the Kennedy men, and the women who lived in their orbit.
(00:02:53) 📖 Jackie Kennedy Onassis — the woman behind the myth, her early life, and the Kennedy world she entered
(00:07:06) 📖 'Ask Not' Biography — Maureen Callahan’s book and why we’re obsessed with the Kennedy women
(00:09:44) 👠 Jackie’s Early Years — Black Jack Bouvier, mother dynamic, and the lessons that shaped her
(00:22:56) 💍 Jackie Meets JFK — the courtship, hard-to-get energy, and early marriage struggles
(00:33:47) 💔 Jackie’s Pain & JFK’s Failures — miscarriages, depression, and the stillbirth of Arabella
(00:38:30) 🕊️The Assassination & Camelot — Jackie’s strength, the blood-stained suit, and her myth-making
(01:06:04) 💍 Jackie & Aristotle Onassis — the controversial marriage, prenup clauses, and later independence
(01:17:05) 🌟 Jackie’s Final Chapter — her publishing career, quiet love, and powerful legacy
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| 0:34.5 | Well, well, well, the long-awaited pop apologist deep dive on Ask Not by Maureen Callahan, |
| 0:40.4 | the night, the day, whatever time you're listening, it is nigh at hand. |
| 0:47.9 | Correct, correct. And I have a bone to pick because I certainly mentioned years ago when I first read this book that I was reading this book and then I loved it. But we got so many DMs that |
| 0:52.1 | are like, you guys have to read a ass not. People were just, you know, screaming at us. We had to read it. And I was like, y'all, I've loved it. But we got so many DMs that are like, you guys have to read a ass not. |
| 0:54.5 | People were just, you know, screaming at us. We had to read it. And I was like, y'all, I've read it. I loved it. I talked about it. Yeah. It actually deeply bothers me when people don't remember every single thing I've ever said on this show over our 360 plus episodes. So if no one else can tell, Chandler is hormonal, she might be kicking off her cycle tomorrow. |
| 1:14.8 | I've told Lauren, I said, mark your calendar every 25 days I get my period. And today I became enraged on the phone. |
| 1:21.0 | I got a phone call that was, I would consider that to be nothing short of irate. I was irate. I was livid, irate. I was biting heads off. |
| 1:29.3 | You've never been like in that state towards me. No, I mean, I definitely, I was not that. |
| 1:34.2 | It was not a 10 out of 10. It was probably like a 7 or an 8 and I could feel myself getting more and more |
| 1:38.5 | angry, but with less of an explanation as to why. But then the beautiful, you know, knowledge, you know, came to me, |
| 1:46.6 | which is that I am on, you know, I am near day 25, which means that the cycle will be starting. |
| 1:52.5 | So I just want everyone to mark their calendars. |
| 1:54.9 | And- |
| 1:55.0 | You've been chastised once, listeners, dear listeners, and let's just see how many more times Chandler's going to, you know, make some Snyder mark at your own expense, dear listener. Or yours. No one's safe. No one is safe. I noticed that Ben started to like tidy up. And then I said, I was like, okay, I don't want to be like, you know, I don't want to be a, you know, terrorist. And he was like, I'm not nervous, |
| 2:34.1 | but I could, I could tell that he knew that that would make me feel a little bit better as if some of the dishes were cleaned up. Ben is such a sweet partner to you. And I'm grateful that you have him. I really am. He takes a lot off my plate. Alas, a lot of people live under my reign of terror and you're one of them. |
| 2:34.8 | That's so true. Everyone, welcome to the show. |
| 2:36.6 | We have a gorgeous deep-dust my plate. Alas, a lot of people live under my reign of terror. And you're one of them. |
| 2:39.2 | That's so true. Everyone, welcome to the show. We have a gorgeous deep dive, you know, |
| 2:44.9 | that we are ready to share with everybody about the one and only. Jackie O'Henny. Jackie Kennedy, |
| 2:52.6 | Jackie Kennedy, O'Nassus, Jackie Bouvé. Bouvier. You know, the pronunciation is in here, so we'll get to it. |
| 2:54.5 | I will be candid. |
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