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The New Evangelicals Podcast

358. TNE TALKS: The Invisible Jesus

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.6936 Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this TALKS Episode, Tommy Preson Phillips, and Scot McKnight delve into the themes of deconstruction within Christianity, exploring its implications and the journey many are taking towards a more authentic faith. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding deconstruction, the complexities of Christian orthodoxy, and the political influences that have shaped modern evangelicalism. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of community and understanding in navigating faith crises, ultimately advocating for a more inclusive and loving approach to Christianity. Chapters 06:49 Understanding Deconstruction: A Path Towards Jesus 15:02 The Complexity of Christian Orthodoxy 20:14 Navigating Political Influences in Faith 30:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism 36:55 Disappointment in Leadership and Idolatry 41:01 The Church's Role in Social Justice 49:58 The Church's Responsibility to the Marginalized 54:10 Finding a Path Forward in Faith Scott and Tommy's new Book | Invisible Jesus: A Book about Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ Tommy's Artisit Page | Preson Phillips Scott's Substack | Scotmcknight.substack.com Tommy's Substack | Tommypresonphillips.substack.com _______________________________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to the new evangelicals podcast.

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Music Welcome to the New Evangelicals Talks.

0:46.5

I'm Tim, the host of this segment.

0:48.9

Join us every Monday as we talk to all different kinds of people at the intersection

0:52.7

of theology, politics, and culture,

0:55.5

helping you navigate a better path forward in your faith.

1:03.7

What's up, friends?

1:04.7

Welcome back to this show.

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All right.

1:06.5

This is a very, very great conversation coming your way.

1:09.2

I brought on Tommy Preeton Phillips and Scott McKnight. They wrote a book called In great conversation coming your way. I brought on Tommy Preston Phillips and Scott

1:12.9

McKnight. They wrote a book called Invisible Jesus and it's all about deconstructing, but not in the

1:17.9

negative way. This is a great conversation. I mean, Scott McNight is a scholar now for 40 years. Tommy

1:23.5

Preston is a pastor and they really tried to answer the question, well, what is

1:28.1

deconstruction and why are people going through it? So this was a really fantastic back to our

1:32.9

roots conversation. If you've been around the show for a long time, you know, in the beginning,

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