You have to pay attention to any kind of description.

I'm going to get back at them or I deserve better.

I hope that they're able to catch him and no one else gets hurt or gets killed.

And I hope he's not able to slaughter anymore before he gets brought in and maybe brought to justice.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente retired at BI profiler former New York City prosecutor and writer and producer of criminal minds with me today is.

Hi everybody. It's francey hates my cat is crying in the background everyone. I hope you can't hear her.

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Hi everybody. It's francey hates former state and federal prosecutor and cat owner.

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You and I are back together again you've been traveling I did some traveling and we're back together and back into our regular rotation and I have to say I think this case that we're going to talk about today is a real worst case scenario that unfortunately is really an ongoing crime that.

Well, literally it's going on right now as a recording which is why we waited to record until today the day we normally drop our episodes on Friday because I was actually hoping that maybe last night.

This particular offender would get caught but as of right now he hasn't so Jim let's let's catch up our listeners.

Yeah, well, unfortunately a guy with the semi automatic rifle a with apparently 30 round magazines taped together so he is carrying 60 rounds on the weapon itself and he went into a bowling alley on youth night.

And then he went into bar five miles away and just started indiscriminately at least it seems shooting anybody who's there.

Unfortunately 18 people were killed and another 13 were injured and I just heard the first report where they mentioned that some of the kids in that bowling alley were killed.

And you know this is just another layer of despicable behavior and.

Well it's evil Jim it's just a matter you don't like the word but it's evil on the level of you know terrorism and you know we had an episode a couple of weeks ago where I talked about what was going on over in Israel with the massacre of men women and children and babies in just horrific horrific ways and to me this is very similar.

But what we're learning this morning which is kind of new to this Jim and I wanted to talk to you about that we you know I don't know that you can ever really talk about motive because motive you know is some rational thing to me and this I just don't understand but but here we are getting some reports of a couple of different motives potentially by the shooter who we're not going to name here.

For obvious reasons I will not glorify his mass shooting so what we're learning is that the two locations Jim where he fired indiscriminately into the well it seemed indiscriminately into the crowd was a bowling alley and a bar and what we're learning now about the bar and the bowling alley first to the bowling alley.

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