357. Ordinary People Don't Carry Machine Guns

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🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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With the Battleground: Ukraine team taking a Christmas break, we have a special interview for you this episode. Saul is joined by Journalist, writer and pacifist turned volunteer soldier Artem Chapeye, who tells his story plus his thoughts and reflections on the war in Ukraine. Artem recently wrote the book: Ordinary People Don't Carry Machine Guns. Join us next week for an update on the latest news from Ukraine. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - podbattleground@gmail.com Producer: James Hodgson X (Twitter): @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:17.1	Hello and welcome to Battleground podcast with me, Saul David.
1:25.9	Today I'm talking to Artem Chappay, a Ukrainian writer, journalist, translator, and a convinced pacifist, or at least he was before the war, but who since the first week of the full-scale
1:28.5	invasion of Ukraine has fought in the Ukrainian army, and he joined voluntarily. He recently published
1:34.7	Not Born for War about his first year of military service. Artem, thanks for coming on the podcast.
1:41.2	Thank you, Sal, thank you for reminding me. Now, given that you're an avowed pacifist,
1:45.6	or at least were, before the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, can you tell me a little
1:51.0	bit about how and why you decided to volunteer for military service? Well, I see that this thing
1:56.7	struck a chord with the Western audiences, because for Ukrainians, this is not what they
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