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The sooner we will be able to get rid of these two commodities oil and coal, the better it

will be.

So we have to find another way of producing energy that will not actually produce CO2 emissions.

But the thing is, green technologies such as electric cars, such as solar panels, such as wind turbines,

these technologies don't come out of thin air.

Today we are revisiting our conversation with Guillaume Piton, which was the first interview I hosted here explicitly exploring the impacts of quote-unquote green energy. This was a pivotal

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