On the creative journey, it's easy to get lost, but don't worry, you'll lift up.

Sometimes you just need a creative pep song.

Hey, you're listening to the creative Heptalk podcast. I'm your host, Andy J.

Pizza. Have you ever had the experience where you make something in like seven seconds

and it gets 70 times the reaction than something you put 70 hours in?

Like something you made super quick with no effort hits your audience way harder

than something you just put your heart and soul and time and effort and life into.

Ever does. It's extremely frustrating when that happens.

You know, there's this thing that happens with art where you hit a wall of diminishing returns

where the extra effort doesn't correlate with extra effect on your audience.

And so you can try and try and try, but it's not actually making it better.

And that can be a very disheartening space. And that's where what we're going to talk about today comes in.

We are in the middle of a creative zero to hero series. It's just a dumb way of talking about.

How do you go from having never picked up the guitar or the paintbrush all the way to writing the best song you're capable of writing?

What are the key touch points?

An illustrator, friend of mine, Zach Gorman said it on Twitter like,

what were the radioactive spider bite moments that transformed you?

I looked back throughout my creative practice and we're trying to identify what were the key shifts

and what were the touch points in that journey that really mattered.

And I also tried to pick out ones that I saw pattern in the creative heroes that I wanted to emulate

in terms of their journey and practice. And so I came up with six things.

It's not an exhaustive list. I'm sure this order isn't perfect, but we've been working through them.

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