From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 356, and today's show is brought to you by

Pingdom, Texas Panda, Dordash, and Wondry. My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason

Snail. Hi, Jason Snail. Hello, Mike Hurley. It's, uh, it's W-W-D-C week.

Day, in fact, we, we, and day, as we are, as you were hearing us, the W-W-D-C Kino ended

like 20 minutes ago. So we have fresh minds, bushy tails, bry-eyed, ready to talk about

W-W-D-C. And my hashtag snow talk question for you, Jason Snail is, who won the draft?

Uh, Jason, why don't you tell our, uh, the Upgradians who won the draft? I don't think

I heard you if you said it. You did, Mike. I won the draft, didn't I, Jason?

You did, you did. I got in the winner. You are. In fact, you won on a two-fer, that

the moment it happened, I thought, oh, well, that's it, because I didn't realize when

you picked them, that you were picking something that would essentially be worth too, if you

were right, and you did, and you were right. I didn't think of it either.

And that pushed, yeah, I know, I know, but that pushed you, by the way, I did win the

over-under on the tie break of the year. I mocked that one off. I was very nervous, a

little bit longer than you thought, although not full two hours, but, but close. Yeah.

But there was a moment where I had crept back into contention with a, with a choice that

would have been a tough argument for me to make, but it was, it was at least arguable.

And then they dropped, uh, they dropped, uh, shortcuts for macOS. So again, in this moment,

I'm both exhilarated and realized that I've lost the draft, but, but I'm so excited

that that got announced. But you, one of your other picks was at least one new or updated

Apple system app based on Catalyst, which is shortcuts. So you get two points there. And

that was, that was the end, just for the record, um, you cleaned up on iOS and iPadOS, you,

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