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Tech Policy Podcast

#356: The UK Targets End-to-End Encryption

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.845 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Paige Collings (Electronic Frontier Foundation) joins the show to discuss how the recently passed UK Online Safety Bill threatens end-to-end-encryption.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The United Kingdom recently passed the online safety bill.

0:29.3

It's a massive law that's been in the works for years.

0:34.7

It does a lot, including things such as requiring age verification, that we've criticized in the context of American law on recent episodes of the show.

0:46.6

Today, we're going to focus on one of the most pernicious aspects of the online safety bill, the threat it poses to encryption.

0:57.4

One British government official has said that,

1:00.6

thanks to the online safety bill,

1:02.8

the UK is on its way to becoming the safest place in the world to be online.

1:08.7

But as my guest today notes, that title, Online Safety Bill, is actually a

1:16.3

misnomer for the ages. This is the Tech Policy Podcast. I'm Corbyn Balthold.

1:27.2

Page Collings is a senior speech and privacy activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

1:34.7

She is written extensively on the online safety bill, including in a recent article at The Daily Beast,

1:42.2

crackdowns on encrypted messaging don't help the children.

1:47.9

In that article, she warns that the online safety bill

1:51.1

is likely to, quote, lead to universal scanning

1:54.5

of all user content.

1:57.8

All users text messages, images, and videos would be checked and monitored before being posted, unquote.

2:07.6

Paige, welcome to the show.

2:10.5

Thank you so much for having me on.

2:12.9

So let's start with the obvious, you know, drill down on encryption.

2:19.6

Why is it important?

2:23.7

And I think you do a great job of explaining this in the work I've read of yours.

2:26.0

You know, why is it a civil rights issue?

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