One. Today I'm speaking with American athlete, top ranking swimmer, and now

campaigner for genuine female rights, Riley Gaines. In our conversation, we're

going to cover her career thus far, how she's navigated leadership positions and female sports,

and otherwise how those sports have been co-opted by men claiming to be women, the ideological capture

they're in, and of course, her recent experiences at San Francisco State University.

I, Riley, I understand that it's about four in the morning there in Nashville. I'm in Portugal,

so time zone trouble. It's real good of you to stay up, so damn late and agree to talk to me and

to everybody else here. So let's start with this. Let's talk a little bit about your life over

the last couple of years. Like what does your life consist of? I presume you're studying and you're

aiming at something. You're also an athlete. So tell me how your life should be, let's say,

and what you're aiming at and how your life actually is, and then we'll start talking about what

happened to you most recently at San Francisco State. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So what have you been up

to the last few years while you were pursuing the pathway, let's say, of a normal person?

I had every intention of finishing my collegiate career of swimming, graduating and going to

dental school. That's always been my passion was dentistry. Specifically, I wanted to be an

endodontist, which is someone who performs root canals, essentially. I graduated with a degree in

human health sciences and health law from the University of Kentucky. I was set to be in dental

school this year, but with everything that really happened and I know we'll dive into that,

it, I decided I really realized that dental school, that's something that will always be there,

but the relevance and the importance behind the issue we're going to talk about, it's not going

to always be there. And I understood if someone with the same powerful testimony that I have,

the same voice, someone who's unafraid to speak the truth, doesn't stick up for this. I really just

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