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356: Finance Friday: First Down Market? Here’s How to Stop Stressing

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets

Investing, Education, Business

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Tech stocks were slam dunk investments for the past decade. No matter what you invested in—Google, Facebook, Amazon, or even some obscure AI toaster company—you probably made decent returns. But, after years of continuous economic growth and massive government stimulus, tech stocks are finally starting to get shaky. The problem? New investors like Zoe have huge paper losses on their dashboards. But is this worth worrying over?

Zoe is an ideal investor. At just twenty-four, she already has close to six-figure wealth, with a house hack, a respectable retirement portfolio, and a solid income every month. She’s making the right moves but feels like some of her most recent choices haven’t hit the mark. She dabbled in stock picking as her income went up, investing in some of the biggest names in tech over the past few years. Her house hack, which is almost letting her live for free, was bought at the top of the market with an average interest rate.

Zoe needs to know what to do next. Should she sell her tech stocks and invest the money into index funds where she can let it ride? Should she buy a new house hack that allows her to live for free instead of at a discount? And where should she put the thousands of dollars she’s saving every month to ensure her a life of financial freedom in the near future? Zoe has some enviable problems, and on this Finance Friday, we’ll be solving them!


In This Episode We Cover

The 2022 stock market crash and whether selling and cutting your losses is a smart idea

The right way to invest in tech stocks and how to get educated on stock picking

House hacking and how deals that aren’t “home runs” can still be huge winners

Getting paid to learn about real estate and using your downtime to boost your financial knowledge

FHA loansconventional loans, USDA loans, and other ways to fund a property purchase for low money down

The right moves to make in your early twenties and why Zoe is a role model for new graduates

And So Much More!


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Is Now the Time to Buy as The Housing Market Starts to Dip?


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast, finance Friday edition, where we interview Zoe and talk about how to invest for the future.

0:08.0

The tool I would recommend there for you is a one-page investment philosophy.

0:12.0

And I think that to put that together, you have a lot of homework to do, because the investment philosophy follows you for a long period of time.

0:18.0

And you've got to make some hard choices when you get into that.

0:21.0

If you would come in and said, I believe in Google, Amazon, Facebook for these reasons, and I have these stocks, I think that over 30 years, they're going to do phenomenally well.

0:29.0

And I'm ready to ride the ups and downs that come with investing in tech stocks in good times and bad. That'd be totally fine. That's not your viewpoint.

0:36.0

You're like, I invested in them because they were the top of listed Robinhood. And now that they're down, I want to pull out.

0:42.0

That means that that philosophy is not yet developed.

0:45.0

Hello, hello, hello. My name is Mindy Jensen, and with me, as always, is my forward-thinking co-host, Scott Trent.

0:50.0

That was a new introduction for the future, Mindy.

0:53.0

That was terrible. Whatever. We'll just keep going.

0:56.0

They can't all be winners, Scott. Scott and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just for somebody else to introduce you to every money story because we truly believe financial freedom is attainable for everyone, no matter when or where you're starting.

1:11.0

That's right. Whether you want to retire early and travel the world, go on to make big-time investments and assets like real estate, start your own business, or come up with an investment philosophy.

1:18.0

We'll help you reach your financial goals and get money out of the way so you can launch yourself towards those dreams.

1:23.0

Scott, I am excited to talk to Zoe today because I think she's facing something that a lot of people are facing for the first time, a downward trending market.

1:35.0

And I want to, I really want to hammer home the thought that just because your stocks are down, just because your portfolio total value is down doesn't mean you have lost money unless you sell the stocks.

1:50.0

And yes, you have sort of lost money. Help me figure this out, Scott. Help me enunciate this correctly because you haven't lost money unless you sold you still own X number of shares of this individual stock or that index fund.

2:04.0

You just, it's just not worth as much as it was last month.

2:08.0

At least in the accumulation phase of building wealth, you never spend the principle. So if I invest a hundred bucks, I never going to spend it. It's just, it's just not part of my life. It's not something I consider as part of my wealth or that I can, that I'm able to access.

2:23.0

I'd only ever spend the returns generated by that hundred dollars, right? So the dividends, for example, or the appreciation over the long term.

2:32.0

But I'm going to stick with that investment for 30 years or maybe forever. It may, I may never sell the index funds that I purchase.

2:38.0

And so, you know, am I going to lose money? Sometimes the paper value of that will go up or down. But my, but I just keep buying.

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