#356 - CIA Spy on Nuclear War, Vault 7 Tech, Mossad in Iran & Death Rituals | John Kiriakou
Julian Dorey Podcast
Julian Dorey
4.6 • 909 Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 198 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | We were talking about nuclear war. |
| 0:01.3 | I think it's something that we do have to fear. It's very complicated, as you said. Listen, every president, from when I joined the CIA, the Israelis asked us to bomb Iran. You got to bomb Iran. You got to bomb Iran. And every single president said no. Our position was that that would be the start of World War III. The reason, though, that Donald Trump decided to bomb Iran was that the Israelis said, |
| 0:21.2 | if you don't bomb Iran, they had never threatened that before. |
| 0:25.1 | It's the most extreme right-wing government in the history of Israel. |
| 0:29.9 | One other thing too, I have a friend. |
| 0:31.4 | He was my first boss at the CIA. |
| 0:33.2 | In his retirement, he writes books about these little niche foreign policy issues. |
| 0:38.3 | I couldn't put the book down. |
| 0:40.1 | And it's not just Gaza. |
| 0:41.3 | It's Libya, Yemen, and Iran and Iraq. |
| 0:44.2 | It could be a disaster. |
| 0:45.8 | I could see the Israelis using one on Iran, the Indians and Pakistanis using them against each |
| 0:50.7 | other. |
| 0:51.7 | Two questions. |
| 0:52.7 | How realistic is that? |
| 0:53.7 | And two, what is the aftermath of that |
| 0:55.1 | that look like? It's frightening. So, Calantir themselves. Yeah. I mean, that's a whole nother level. What kinds |
| 1:00.0 | of things right now are you most concerned about? I worry about the violation of our civil liberties. |
| 1:04.4 | It is against the law to spy on Americans, period. And that's practically all they do, where they had to |
| 1:09.6 | build this new facility out in Utah that can hold every phone call, every text message, every email from every American for the next 500 years. |
| 1:17.3 | And now Palantir is a trillion dollar company that makes most of its money contracting with the CIA. |
| 1:22.5 | How about this? The metadata from your communications is for sale. |
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