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Welcome back, everybody. I'm your host, Greg McHughan. Thank, really. Thank you. Today we're going to have an interesting conversation with Moses Kagan. Back in 2011, with no outside capital, he co-founded a company, Adaptive Realty, which now has managing over 1,000 apartments, it owns over $200 million

in real estate.

He's beyond that, someone who's trying to do something different in the world.

He's the co-founder of Reconvene, which is an unconference meaning, really, that they're trying

to have an experience that's real, a conversation that's real, connections that are real,

which sometimes professional conferences are a bit lagging in achieving.

He also co-founded, Re-seed, a groundbreaking lagging in achieving. He also co-founded Recede, a groundbreaking platform that

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