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The Mark Groves Podcast

#355: Unlocking the World of Attachment, Emotional Isolation, and EFT with Dr. Sue

The Mark Groves Podcast

Mark Groves

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.9 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I welcome Dr. Sue Johnson, a pioneering figure in couples therapy and adult attachment, renowned for her role in developing Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT). Together, we explore the profound impact of relationships and attachment in the human experience. Dr. Sue discusses the role of emotions in therapy, emphasizing the significance of understanding and validating emotions to establish secure attachments. Throughout the episode, she shares insights on how she’s helped her clients navigate challenging emotions for authentic change through EFT. Dr. Sue also dives into topics such as the transformative power of emotional epiphanies, the creation of safe spaces in therapy, the societal shift towards digital connections, and the importance of understanding attachment needs in the digital age. Join us in this impactful conversation to explore the pursuit of authentic, face-to-face connections and their fundamental role in enhancing your emotional well-being. Dr. Sue Johnson has received numerous awards including Psychotherapy Networker’s Lifetime Achievement Award, the APA’s Family Psychologist of the Year, and the Order of Canada. Her best-selling book Hold Me Tight (2008) has sold over one million copies and was developed into a relationship education program. As founding director of the International Centre for Excellence in Emotionally Focused Therapy (ICEEFT), Dr. Sue trains counselors in EFT worldwide, providing guidance to over 90 affiliated organizations. —Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drsuejohnson/ —Website: https://drsuejohnson.com/ —Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drsuejohnson/ —Twitter: https://twitter.com/Dr_SueJohnson —YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorSueJohnson?themeRefresh=1 —Website: International Centre for Excellence in Emotionally Focused Therapy (ICEEFT) www.iceeft.com —Books: https://drsuejohnson.com/books/ If you want to dive deeper into Mark’s content, search through every episode, find specific topics we’ve covered, and ask him questions, go to his Dexa page: https://dexa.ai/markgroves Themes: Authenticity, Belonging, Breakups, Relationships, Boundaries, Self-Worth, Self-Love, Health, Codependency, Infidelity, Dating, Attachment Theory, Transformation, Conflict, Mental Health, Grief, Emotionally Focused Therapy, Emotions This episode is sponsored by Organifi: Use code CREATETHELOVE for 20% off sitewide at http://www.organifi.com/createthelove Contact us at podcast@markgroves.com for sponsor product support, questions, comments, or just to say hello!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

We are social, bonding beings. Relationships are the water we swim in. If you take a fish out of water,

0:08.0

it only takes a couple of seconds for it to get real dysfunctional. Well, that's like human beings.

0:12.8

Human beings need to know that they're going to be responded to, that they're connected to another human

0:18.2

being. I don't think I've ever worked with a client who didn't identify aloneness as one of the key issues.

0:23.7

You are not wired to deal with the uncertainties of life.

0:28.2

You're not wired to deal with that alone.

0:30.2

It's not how clever you are or how mature you are

0:33.4

or how you're not wired for it.

0:35.2

You're wired to stand in the safety provided by someone else

0:39.2

and to be able to lean on them for support.

0:42.9

And the research on this is enormous.

0:49.8

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mark Gross podcast.

0:53.1

Today I'm joined by, I mean,

0:56.1

I would consider you like the queen of attachment, I mean, emotionally focused therapy, Dr.

1:01.4

Sue Johnson, you're a celebrity in the world of relationship and very well deserved. I've been

1:08.7

following your work for a very long time and learn so much through you.

1:13.4

And it honestly feels like a moment that has arrived that I've always thought about. So I'm just so

1:19.5

excited to have the opportunity to chat with you today. Oh, you're most welcome. I'm honored to be here.

1:25.9

Well, maybe we should kick off with, you know, what shaped your view of emotion and therapy.

1:33.4

I remember hearing a story about your experience of being in pubs as a kid, and I thought it was just such a beautiful articulation of what we don't think about when we're in environments.

1:45.9

Yes. Well, I was, my father had a pub and I guess other little girls were looking at children's books and maybe TV.

1:56.8

And I was a working class kid. So in a working class family, everybody works.

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