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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Entrepreneurship, Marketing, Management, Business

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What if launching your law firm amidst competition isn't about having it all figured out, but about taking the plunge with unwavering determination and adaptability? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Charles Buist and Nicholas Spetsas, the formidable duo behind a rapidly growing law firm in Orlando. Join us as we delve into their inspiring journey from shared dreams in a cramped one-bedroom apartment to the strategic decisions that helped them navigate the challenges of launching a firm from scratch. Here’s what you’ll learn: How taking strategic risks early in your career can pave the way for future success The critical role of a client-centric approach in differentiating a law firm, ensuring lasting relationships and trust by prioritizing client needs and maintaining excellent service The impact of leveraging advanced technology and personalized leadership strategies, like AI, Kolbe, and PRINT assessments, to foster team growth and enhance operational efficiency in a thriving law firm Tune in as they unpack their evolution from law school allies to entrepreneurial partners, revealing the bold bets, unrelenting commitment, and client-first mindset that drove their explosive growth from day one. With an emphasis on emotional connection, tech-forward operations, and agile leadership, Charles and Nick’s story is packed with battle-tested strategies and hard-earned insights for any law firm looking to stand out — and win — in today’s hyper-competitive market. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – From Law School Roommates to Law Firm Founders 06:19 – Building the Firm During Uncertainty and Sleepless Nights 11:45 – The Turning Point: A Case That Changed Everything 14:31 – Competing in One of the Nation’s Toughest Legal Markets 18:34 – Team Composition, Growth Strategy, and Embracing AI 23:37 – Leadership Lessons: Individual Focus and Effective Communication 27:55 – Defining Firm Culture: Excellence, Empathy & Evolution 42:08 – Personal Growth, Client Experience & What’s Next ---- Links & Resources: Charles Buist Nicholas Spetsas Mark Cuban Lior Weinstein Chris Voss The Bachelorette ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers

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0:00.0

I think that the being a good lawyer thing has to go without saying.

0:05.6

You need to be smart.

0:06.9

You need to be up to date.

0:08.2

You need to be constantly evolving and learning about the law.

0:13.8

Welcome to a special edition episode of the Game Changing Attorney podcast featuring the premier firm of the year award winners announced at the 2024 crisp

0:21.2

game changer summit, Nick Spetsus and Charles Buist, co-founders of Spetsus Buist.

0:25.9

You can have a good attorney that brings your firm in the quota for the month, but a great

0:32.3

attorney is going to make sure that they left no stone unturned and maximizes their client settlement value.

0:45.3

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:50.1

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:52.9

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue

0:56.8

over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private

1:01.3

companies in America.

1:02.6

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth

1:06.1

within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law

1:09.8

from owners do the same for theirs.

1:11.6

In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry

1:15.7

and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo,

1:20.7

and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with Nick and Charles to discuss

1:26.0

how perseverance and resilience are crucial and overcoming business hurdles,

1:29.8

how to identify and cultivate a culture of empathy, excellence, and evolution within your law firm,

1:34.5

and had to leverage individual strengths and complementary skill sets to amplify a partnership.

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